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Vogon left to do a little shopping earlier this afternoon. I was going to make a post about how I'm confused that he insisted on getting gifts for Laurel and I after I've repeatedly told him we're fine (she's going to be buried in gifts from relatives), but as I was sitting down to type, he came in and said, "We won't be going anywhere for awhile."

Someone slashed the tires and knifed the top of Vogon's car. They also opened the gas cap, which suggests something was added to the tank.

We can't think of anyone that would have any problem with us other than the downstairs neighbors, who I called the police about once at 0330 on a Sunday morning in November to ask them to turn their music down. (They play music at floor-shaking levels at all hours, especially 2200-0000 and 0300-sometime after dawn on weekends.) They threw a very loud party last night that another neighbor may have called the police about, but I was asleep through most of it because my sleep schedule's off and I was dead tired.

He's talked to the police twice -- first they said they'd call back, then he called again after seeing that there's snow in the weather forecast and with the car at the end of a carport, we worry evidence will be damaged by it. I'm hoping they send someone out to take fingerprints off the car before the bad weather moves in and that whatever was done to the gas tank is on the less expensive end of the price range to repair.

ETA 2030: The police finally called back... but Vogon was asleep and he's hard to wake, so the woman on the other end told me he can call back anytime. Somehow I doubt anyone's going to come out to see the car before Christmas. I'll go take pictures in the morning so at least they'll have that.


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Dec. 21st, 2004 11:44 pm (UTC)
i'm really sorry. if it was your neighboors, i hope they're evicted, too.
Sugar is supposed to do something weird to the gas tank. reversable weirdness. hopefully it's something strange like that and not something bad. ::corsses fingers for you::
Dec. 24th, 2004 12:58 am (UTC)
Sugar will clog the injectors and can cause your engine to seize if you don't get it removed immediately. They towed the car and when they removed the gas tank they found that it did, indeed, have something granular in there. So, good thing I didn't run the car.
Dec. 24th, 2004 01:41 am (UTC)
hmmm. wow. I'm glad it's all cleared up..
Dec. 24th, 2004 11:15 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'd known about the risk already, since one of the people I knew in the military was nicknamed "Psycho" for a really good reason: People knew that if you messed with him you could expect your entire life to be really bad for a very, very long time. He once caught his roommate stealing (nothing of importance). The roommate mysteriously developed bruises all up and down his body on the way to the 1st Sergeant's office, and that was only down one flight of stairs. The roommate swears to this day that he fell several times on the way there. (I'd say I don't blame him, but then I'd have never been dumb enough to mess with Dennis; it's kind of like why you don't drive up to a gas station and light a fire next to the gas pump and then throw dynamite into the fire, that just isn't smart.)

Things he taught me: If your tires are slashed, automatically assume that they have dumped sand or sugar in the gas tank and cut your break lines -- they're already trying to ruin you, so no reason to think they wouldn't be trying to kill you, as well. This is the first time this has ever happened to me, personally, but I'm glad that I knew him as it saved my car (and probably my financial well-being as I do ok, but being able to afford another down payment on another car with no trade would be... uhm... painful).

But, if you're really curious about it, this is a link that you might find interesting.
Dec. 22nd, 2004 12:11 am (UTC)
horrible. just horrible. :(
Dec. 22nd, 2004 12:13 am (UTC)
OH MY GOD! I can't believe people. This time of year of all things. Seems that poor car can't get a break between the accident and now this.

I'd hate to pass judgment as well but I would think the neighbors as well. Especially if they had a party last night and possibly had the cops called on them.

Mike said if you have not done so DO NOT start the car. If there is sugar in the gas tank it will be five times better if you don't start the car. The car might possibly run the same but not nearly as bad if you don't start it. I hope there is nothing in it and they just unscrewed the cap to be assanine. If anything as gross and silly as it sounds I hope they peed in it. =(

I'll keep my fingers crossed that the repairs are at a minimal amount of money.
Dec. 22nd, 2004 12:38 am (UTC)
OMG. I cannot believe that. Will your insurance cover it? Did you talk to the housing complex? I'm so sorry that happend. :(
Dec. 24th, 2004 11:23 am (UTC)
No, we don't carry comprehensive since I would probably refuse to ever use it (if I ever did, they would double my rates; on a convertible sports car for an officially single male that would be pretty prohibitive).

Yes, the apartment complex was notified.

I'll never be able to prove that ANYONE did it, so it doesn't matter who did. It's really stupid for people to do this kind of thing because the intended message is completely lost unless you know who did it. And, anyone who could make sure that I knew who did it would be immediately served with criminal charges (and they know it). So, it was just stupid and doesn't even serve their purpose.
Dec. 24th, 2004 04:19 pm (UTC)
Blah, I'm just so sorry you guys had to deal with it at all. :(
Dec. 22nd, 2004 01:29 am (UTC)
I'm so sorry that happened to you! Be careful, the vibe I get from that action is one of violence and anyone stupid enough to do something in direct retaliation is also stupid enough to do worse. I'm not trying to scare you, but just to wish you all safety.
Dec. 22nd, 2004 01:59 am (UTC)
No comprehensive insurance, I take it? That's just plain evil.

Someone smashed the shit out of my car - I got a check from the insurance company for more than the car was worth. It's a good thing to get, though hindsight is always 20/20.
Dec. 22nd, 2004 02:45 am (UTC)
Since he plans to keep this car for a long time, I think he'll go for comprehensive insurance in the future since it probably would have paid for itself this year.

I'm glad we didn't have something happen while we were on the road. This time of year always reminds me of saarlander's Christmas Eve engine fire.
Dec. 24th, 2004 11:54 am (UTC)
{putting on analysis hat}
I'm not going for comprehensive at least until the car is paid off. Then I can at least afford to have an insurance payment that is about what the car payment is, currently. I already pay $500 every 6 months for minimum liability, alone.

Adding basic comprehensive increases that rate by 4 to 5 times (assuming bare basic minimums) and I'd still have a $1000 to $2000 deductible. So, it would only have paid for about $1500 worth of the damage this year and would have cost me an additional $2500 per 6 months. Do the math to see why I don't bother to carry it. ($3500 damage this year vs. $5000 for the year in premiums PLUS the $1000-2000 deductible! Insurance is a scam; a legal con.)

And, at this point the worst case is that I'd only owe another $2000 to pay off the loan, and then another however much to make a down payment on a new one (the down on this one was $1700). That's still less than I'd pay in one single year of comprehensive, so that is a product that just isn't a good investment for me.

It is my opinion that if you owe less than $5000 on a car, it makes no sense to even carry comprehensive because it becomes a payment to an insurance company who's primary goal is to NOT pay you anything, but to continue to take those very large payments every month for as long as they possibly can. This is a bit like an extended warranty. You'd do much, much better to take the extra income you'd devote to comprehensive and use it to pay off your car more quickly. Then, once it's all paid off, turn the car payment AND the comprehensive payment into a deposit in an interest earning account and use that for the down on a new car if/when you get into a catastrophic accident that cannot be properly repaired. If you then drive carefully you could potentially buy a new car in cash if that happened (or, at the very least, you could have a very, very low car payment).

Go figure, $400/month car payment + $450/month comprehensive = $850/month... after 36 months you would have about $30,000 + any interest earned... That's half the length of time to pay off the average car loan and it would be instantly available -- with no interest paid out and the insurance companies don't get rich off of your hard work without giving you anything at all of value in return.

I DO believe in liability, though!
Dec. 22nd, 2004 02:39 am (UTC)
That is terrible, but at least on Mythbusters recently, I saw them do a bunch of the standard prank stuff (i.e. Sugar in the Gas Tank) and it apparently didn't really do too terribly much. Like, I mean, it's always better if it doesn't happen, but if it does, it's not too awfully bad, either, like, you probably wouldn't notice. So that's something.

Unfortunately, they didn't show that the same held for slashed tires or anything, though...
Dec. 22nd, 2004 05:53 am (UTC)
huggles to Vog and you. =(

weirdness. i had a stranger come to my door lastnight asking for someone who doesn;t live here. worried me. now i'm scared my apt is gonna get broken into while i go and visit my folks =(
Dec. 22nd, 2004 09:53 am (UTC)
is there a way to fingerprint it yourself? Or tarp it up?
Dec. 22nd, 2004 04:12 pm (UTC)
I'm so sorry, you guys!!!
Dec. 24th, 2004 04:00 am (UTC)
that is so fucking shitty...I hate fuckers that do that shit.
Dec. 24th, 2004 11:57 am (UTC)
What comes around goes around. The universe bites back.

I honestly believe that. This is why I've never done anything like this to another, no matter how badly I disliked them.

They'll get theirs and I won't even be remotely involved.
Dec. 24th, 2004 04:21 pm (UTC)
That is a GREAT way to look at it. Kudos to you for being able to be positive. :)
Dec. 26th, 2004 12:42 pm (UTC)
LOL Apparently I'm just "afflicted with positivity" (aka, "clinically up-beat") -- I know it irritates a lot of people around me, but I'm too lazy to learn to be more pessimistic and grumpy.

I keep trying. I guess I'm just slow... ;)

But, be careful, it is catching! I once nearly got someone fired because they "... had become so perky and bouncy that it's pissing off the customers." {chuckle}

(Note to self: Frown more, growl at cat, stick tongue out at childling...)
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